August 2008 ROI 4.78%

XIRR computed ROI after subtracting the loan value of all 4+ month late loans yields 4.78%, Eric’s has my ROI at 5.77%. LendingStats hasn’t been updated since mid August.After subtracting the loan value of all 4+ month late loans for the Prosper figu…

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Motley Fool article about Prosper

Just in case anyone still reads this blog and missed the thread over at prospers.orgAvoid this Company Like the Plague

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July 2008 ROI 5.73%

Still in positive territory !LS has roi at 6.52% and Eric’s has roi at 7.29%And the late loans keep on rolling in.By my calculations after allowing for additional bad debt I made $1.57 on this portfolio last month.

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June 2008 ROI 5.87%

XIRR at end of June counting all 4+ month loans as worthless $403.02 in total loan value results in a return of 5.87%. Lending stats shows 6.97% and Eric’s has 7.66%Prosper continues to show a very optimistic value of $553.71 in gain a more realistic …

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Lenders retain legal counsel and send letter to Prosper

If you are currently a Prosper lender or considering lending on Prosper you need to read this! The letter starts off with this:You can read the rest of the letter (warning .pdf file) here.Or read it in this Link to thread on Prospers.org.

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18 Months of Lending on Prosper (Part II)

Advice for new Prosper lenders.So you are a new Prosper lender, and I’m guessing that the #1 question on your mind is: How much money can I make?Well the simple answer is: Not anywhere near as much as you think.The good news is that it is possible to …

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18 Months of Lending on Prosper (Part I)

Part I of an n part series (where hopefully n > 1 ) to summarize my experience with lending on Prosper over the last eighteen months.Part I is mostly raw data.129 loans originated over 18 months, slightly more than 7 per month on average.14 loans have…

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Update to May results XIRR 7.27% not 7.35%

Both of the attempted payment pulls have disappeared, no big surprise. Corrected XIRR is 7.27%.And LendingStats has implemented some enhancements to correctly reflect the value of late loans and the “repurchased” loans from the new agency test. new L…

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May 2008 ROI 7.35%

As of the end of may, XIRR is 7.35%, Eric’s shows 8.33% and LendingStats shows 8.60% (but it looks like that is from 5/27 so LS is behind)Snapshot of my account:The total loan value of my 4+ month late accounts stands at $300.83, two of the accounts…

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Lender rates may be ticking up

It looks to me like lender rates have moved up a bit. Certainly not a scientific study but I noticed the rates on my B loans in May seem to have finished higher than recent rates.Five B loans in May: 13.55%, 12.40%, 15.95%, 13.55% and 13.50%Seven B l…

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Not dead yet!

Another great line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail!Some folks over on prospers.org noted that they had daggers on some 4+ month late loans, well so do I!Do I expect to see any money from this effort? NO. But at least Prosper is giving it a shot….

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Late loans keep on rolling in

Not looking too good for this month, two just flipped from late to 1 month late. Here is a screen shot, not a pretty picture.One of the two is an E link so it isn’t too much of a surprise, has made 15 payments and has gone late before but not all the…

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Correction to Prosper statements for lenders suck

Andrew over at Prosper corrected some mistakes in this blog entry.Now that I look at this again I see where I got confused (again!). I looked at ‘interest received’ line item under payments received and noticed that it was a good bit less than the ‘ne…

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May looking like a big month

So far this month $7,930,000 according to LendingStats. This will easily surpass May’07 and will probably be the biggest month ever! Looks like the deal with WebBank is paying off with loans nationwide except for a couple of states. And I bet the …

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Memorial Day


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Prosper statements for lenders suck

Prosper has an overview page for lenders, here is a snapshot of what I have today.Lenders have probably seen this screen before ( with your own data). So how am I doing? This is the primary question (or should be) that is on lenders minds when they l…

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Wondering why Prosper does not provide an ROI figure

There is a forum thread over on prospers.org that got me thinking about why lenders have to depend on third party sites for their ROI figures. And I’m not talking about the ROI of other lenders but your personal ROI. Prosper has all the data necessar…

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Message for Gaelicman STOP LENDING!

I was going to write a post about our most recent deadbeat borrower cyfctmcwho I believe is now 1 month late on a loan originated on 2/18 (It looks like she made one payment) and as I read through the listing I was wondering who was the big (idiot) b…

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Prosper Marketplace Survey Results April 2008

Prosper has released it’s marketplace survey results for April 2008. You can read a copy here or go to Prospers blog and read about it along with comments by Chris Larson (CEO).Of course they put a positive spin on things and there is some good (but o…

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Homeowners

Are home owners a better bet? I’m not sure anymore and I’ve been giving listings by home owners more though before bidding recently.My understanding of how Proser calculates DTI is that they exclude mortgage payments under the theory that rent payment…

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Why not 100% verified income and employment status

Why doesn’t Prosper verify income and employment status on all loans? My understanding is that today the verification process is hit or miss, some borrowers are verified and others (the majority?) are not. The income range figures into a couple of im…

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Checkout: Prosper.com - the lawsuits begin

Fred93 has a post up:Prosper.com - the lawsuits beginCheck it out at this link.http://www.prospers.org/blogs/Fred93

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Bad Debt Sale update

There was an update on the official Prosper blog by Doug Fuller today on the most recent bad debt sale attempt.”In round numbers, the bids that we received were approximately 1/3 the prices bid in December. The price difference between the August and D…

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Bad Debt Sale Hiccup

Well it appears there has been a hiccup in the bad debt sale. This post by Doug Fuller over on the official Prosper blog lays it out, but the simple explanation is that no one wants to pay very much. Take a look at the results from previous bad debt…

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Weirdness in principle received

Just in case someone else runs into this situation I noted in my previous post, I have an explanation for the decrease in principle paid that I observed. First a couple of screen shots.End of March 2008:End of April 2008:Note that principle received i…

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April 2008 ROI 6.36%

LS shows 8.62% and Eric’s shows 9.33% (both of these have gone up in the last few days, on Sunday LS was 8.40% and Eric’s was 8.89%).There seems to be some screwup on the Lending screen payments received figures. Take a look at my screen shot from las…

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What about that Secondary Market

We are rapidly approaching the six month anniversary of the S-1 filling by PMI and there doesn’t seem to be any new information available. Now I can see how this could be far down on the SEC’s to do list but it would be nice to know how things stand. …

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Looking for gaps in the new Portfolio Plan slices

In case you haven’t noticed yet, Prosper updated the Portfolio Plan slices as part of last nights upgrade. But a new feature described on the official Prosper blog indicates that the updates are not automatic so you won’t be caught by surprise by the…

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Interesting Performance Chart two

This is another interesting chart using the same data from the post on Sunday. The Y axis is the expected loss and the X axis the lender rate.Ignoring the credit grades and lines for a moment it sure looks like lender rate is a good predictor of expec…

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Another payoff in progress

I was on this nice clean B loan now it is being paid off. Not too much of a surprise because they have been making two or three payments a month since the loan originated.But finding another 0-0-0 B that will pay 16.27% is going to be tough :(Anyway, …

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Interesting Performance Chart

I was playing around with the performance data over on Prosper trying to figure out if for a given credit grade does the loan amount matter when figuring losses. You should be able to click on the chart on the left and get a bigger version.What I did…

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what a difference a penny makes ($205.65)

How much is a penny worth? $205.65 (no, copper hasn’t gone through the roof, yet!)Consider a clean A listing like this one. Not a lot of early enthusiasm for this loan by lenders, part of the problem was the (old) NJ rate cap of 13.56% but if we fa…

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Portfolio Plans still like C grade

Here is a snapshot summary of the Portfolio plans as of today.(Click on image to get a larger version)This is sorted by min bid rate, notice the line I’ve highlighted. Here we have ‘C’ borrowers that are rated better than all the ‘A’ and ‘B’ slices. …

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Eric’s Credit Community site update

If you haven’t been over to Eric’s CC site recently you should go check it out.I haven’t explored much but so far it looks pretty good.And Eric’s shows a higher ROI for my portfolio so it must be good! :)

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Prosper site update 4/15/2008

Prosper made some pretty big changes last night.36% max $1,000 - $25,000 everywhere (except TX and SD)Instant transfer amounts lowered to $50 and up to max 50% of your loan value (need to install facebook app.)Second loan criteria updated, now depends …

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pre-payments on the rise ?

Is it just me or are other folks seeing an increase in early payoffs ?Today this one showed up as a payoff in progress. Not that I’m complaining !But this was a pretty nice A @ 15% (ok, in retrospect inquiries were high) that was one of the bright sp…

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loans for $5,000 or less don’t seem to be a lot safer

I was bid off this loan listing which wasn’t too much of a surprise because it looks like a pretty good B and the amount was small. Then I got to wondering if smaller loans are less likely to default, that seems to be the assumption many lenders are m…

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Taxes done! waiting to be stimulated :)

Finally finished doing tax return. Looks like we are going to get some of the rebate money. Here is a handy calculator that will estimate what if any you might be getting.I’ll probably put some of this into Prosper over the next six months depending …

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A late April fools joke!

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Q2 experiment

I’ve started a bidding experiment for Q2 where I’ll bid 1% on promising loan listings and let the market set the final loan rate. Obviously I’m picking loan listings that I feel have a low chance of default. I expect that I’ll keep this up for April…

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ROI 6.75% as of April 2 down 1.35% in two days!

One of two 3 month late loans flipped to 4+ months lateNot a real bad listing for an EBut the subsequent listing in Nov showed some desperation, oh well…..Not like this deadbeat: Pro226 who managed to manipulate the credit score to go from an E to an…

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March 2008 ROI 8.16%

My XIRR computed ROI has rebounded at least temporarily. I write off 100% of the loan value of my 4+ month lates when I compute XIRR. But I’ve got two 3 month late loans lurking around the corner with a current loan value of $92.37 about to hit the 4…

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Borrower Segments

I just noticed a new feature on Eric’s called Borrower Segments that allows you to slice borrowers up by different categories. If you haven’t played around with it yet I highly recommend it.Try sorting by lender rate, I noticed something interesting (…

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About time for a bad debt sale

I wonder if we are going to get a bad debt sale this quarter (time is running out). I quick check on Eric’s shows 926 loans are 4+ months late now. Seems like a big enough number to bother with even if some are too new to the 4+ month late club to ma…

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What if

I was wondering what the effect of one more or one less bad loan would be on my current ROI. The magnitude of the change was somewhat surprising. Tonight my account balance is $4,453.67 and the total loan value of my 4 loans that are 4+ months late i…

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I love Prosper too!

Inspired by this blog post over at Prosper I now love Prosper too! It seems I just needed to learn a new way to calculate my returns. From the comments section:”I take the amount I initially deposited across all accounts, subtract that from the curre…

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fun with XIRR

Loan Chimp has a post over on his blog listing his XIRR rate of 7.5%. Why is this below both the LendingStats and Eric’s estimate ? Because LC writes off any loan that is 1 month late or worse. Now I don’t think that is wrong, but it is probably und…

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Thinking about a new bidding strategy for Q2

A recent post by Mike over at his Prosperous Land blog got me thinking about a new (for me) bidding strategy. Pick the very best looking listings in the AA, A and B credit grades and just let the market determine the interest rate. I’d set a very ti…

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update on effect of idle cash

An update on my post about impact of idle cash on returns.Anonymous left a comment that I’d like to comment on :)I did account for cash tied up in winning bids in computing my average cash balance for each month but I didn’t include the cost of lost in…

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Top 5 lenders you should checkout

Every now and then I take a look at who is doing well ROI wise and checkout what they are bidding on to see if I can learn something. Tonight I offer for your consideration these five lenders who have over 200 loans, average loan age over 6 months and…

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Borrowing to reinvest in Prosper I don’t get it

I’ve noticed a lot of borrowing to reinvest in Prosper listing recently. Maybe I’m just paying more attention but it seems like they have increased. I’ve been asking the same question on each listing that I see:”What is the spread you are expecting b…

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Portfolio Plans strike again!

Take a look at this listing that was noticed by Oak_Hill_Fire over at prospers.org. Balanced Portfolio slice #4 likes this listing at 14.20%.But anyone who takes the time to read the description is going to pass on this one.”Reinvesting in Prosper” is…

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Portfolio Plans strike again!

Take a look at this listing that was noticed by Oak_Hill_Fire over at prospers.org. Balanced Portfolio slice #4 likes this listing at 14.20%.But anyone who takes the time to read the description is going to pass on this one.”Reinvesting in Prosper” is…

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Impact of idle cash is minimal

There is a posting over on the Prosper forums by NCBroker with the title: “I’m pulling out of Prosper” and the reason given is lost income due to idle funds not risk due to defaults. Well this got me thinking (right after I thought NCBroker is an idio…

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No successful payment activity for this statement period

Received my monthly lender statement today. I don’t usually look at the Loans held section but I just happened to look at it this month and I noticed this phrase:”No successful payment activity for this statement period”What I found humorous about th…

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Oil Well Rehabilitation loan

I noticed this loan listing tonight and thought that the idea was interesting enough to have a closer look. The number of inquiries is a show stopper for me on bidding. But I found the whole concept interesting. Had not really thought much about it …

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Wish there was a way to specify an upper bound on rate

I wish there was a way to specify and upper bound for the interest rate when setting up a standing order. In other words, I want to be able to bid on a loan but only when the interest rate has dropped below a certain level. Consider for example this …

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Followup to previous post on Prosper ROI calculation

In case you missed it Andrew from Prosper posted a comment on my post from a couple of days ago. And pointed out the following text on the performance help page.”However, in situations where there is inadequate data to calculate meaningful roll rates …

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Prosper still using misleading lender returns

On the home page Prosper is advertising lenders can earn between 9.49% - 12.81%Here is the search using their criteria of July 1,2006 to Oct 30,2007 observed on Nov 30, 2007 with 0 inquires, 0-1 current DQ’s and only auto-fund. I find it annoying that…

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Prospers ROI calculation wrong

I use this search criteria (here is a screen shot)And I get the following estimated ROI table:But when I look at the Performance data I see this:So I’m looking at the column for AA and I see 165 loans of which 129 are active billed and less than 1 mont…

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